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smitty
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Does this count?

Post by smitty »

I was talking with Buddy last Wednesday. He was telling me about a shot he had and we couldn't make the call.


He threw his shot, it hit the inside of the basket, jumped up, and was hanging from the outside of the basket.


By old rules, no brainer. Yes it is good.


New rules, it is no good.

803.13 Holing Out


B. Disc Entrapment Devices: In order to hole out, the thrower must release the disc
and it must come to rest supported by the chains and/or the inner cylinder (bottom and
inside wall) of the tray.
It may be additionally supported by the pole. A disc observed by two
or more players of the group or an official to have entered the target below the top of the
tray or above the bottom of the chain support is not holed out.
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Here is the next question

If I accept cash in a Professional division (singles, doubles, team, etc), can I still compete as an Amateur due to my low player rating?
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Mace Man wrote:Here is the next question

If I accept cash in a Professional division (singles, doubles, team, etc), can I still compete as an Amateur due to my low player rating?
If you are under 970 yes.. but you lose an invites to national Am events (worlds, ect) and I believe you are classified as a Pro for PDGA memberships...
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answer---

Yes and No. You may compete in amateur divisions at A, B, and C Tier events if your player rating falls within the guidelines: http://www.pdga.com/documents/divisions ... ts-factors However, you are now classified as a Professional with the PDGA and are ineligible to compete in Amateur Majors such as the US Amateur Disc Golf Championship and Am Worlds.

*Please keep in mind that you may accept prizes in lieu of cash in a Professional division and remain an Amateur.
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Mace Man wrote:answer---

Yes and No. You may compete in amateur divisions at A, B, and C Tier events if your player rating falls within the guidelines: http://www.pdga.com/documents/divisions ... ts-factors However, you are now classified as a Professional with the PDGA and are ineligible to compete in Amateur Majors such as the US Amateur Disc Golf Championship and Am Worlds.

*Please keep in mind that you may accept prizes in lieu of cash in a Professional division and remain an Amateur.
Since we are talking about this... :roll:

How does accepting prizes in lieu of cash (in disc golf) effect your eligibility in other sports (if you are in college)?
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Actually talked about this quite a bit. As far as we could find out, this had no effect on eligibility. This was a concern of players headed to play NCAA Baseball as I recall.
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Next question: group can't decide if disc is in or out of bounds and decides to leave it up to the TD. player should play a provisional/play it both ways but regardless whether disc is in or out, after taking a meter, the spot is identical. Does a the player have to throw twice from the same spot specifying which throw is for which scenario? Seems unreasonable but I don't see anything in the rules about it.

#2 how is 10m measured? Imaginary straight line from mark to base of bucket? (if mark is below bottom of bucket the line would go through the earth). 10m following the terrain of the green? 10m on a horizontal line from the bucket? R/B was putting from the water on 13(?) at Manhattan and called a falling putt on himself. Trouble was there was no way to walk off 10m so we couldn't be sure he was even in the circle. 10m on a horizontal put him in the circle (best I could tell) but following terrain or imaginary line I think he was out.

10m circles aren't official but they make a circle using 2 out of 3 possibilities above. If you are using a 10m string you make an imaginary line to the uphill parts of a green but you follow the terrain on the downhill side.
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If you had 2 different spots(ie. you chose not to take a full meter from o.b.) you would need two putts. Given the same spot there is no need for a second shot...but if I missed the first putt, I would re- mark and try my 2nd one... :roll:
On the 10 meter circle, I didn't understand what you meant about uphill and downhill being different on a string...the string is still the same. Theoretically the area is a globe surrounding the basket. Practically, it is measured line of sight, so if you could take 11 paces, you should be good to jump. Remember, if in doubt, it always plays in favor of the player.
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Use the hypotenuse!
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Schoen-hopper wrote:Use the hypotenuse!

No kidding Swede! Get the surveying tools out find the exact distance from the base of the pole and figure the number of feet you are below the lock. A little Pythagorean Theorem find that hypotenuse and make that sucker putt again. :D
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What if your disc balances on top of the side of the bucket, half in, half out. Is this considered good under new rules?
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Hypotenuse, check.
Globe, check. Doesn't make it very easy to call on steep terrain. But, check. Why is that not stated in the rules?
FYI, it was Randy Brown: He made both putts LIKE A BOSS.

SNG, no rule against blowing the balanced disc in to the bucket. Just take a knee and pucker up.
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