Toughest Courses in Kansas

Schoen-hopper · Post by **Schoen-hopper** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 6:45 pm

Have we done this one before?

I'd like to see some Scratch Scoring Average data. That would tell the tale. Maybe we could gather some up. Here is my guess at what the rankings would be.

#1 Ted's Dread (long pins to long tees). About SSA 64.5 in the spring since they took some fences down that were OB. Blue Valley would be higher with that courses long pins, but it is in MO.

#2 Rosedale (long pins). So much tougher than short pins. 2nd shots are treacherous.

#3 Wyco (long pins). Scoring can only go so low on a course of this length.

#4 Jones East (long pins).

#5 Frontier Park (long tees to long pins).

#6 Herman Hill (long tees to long pins). This one is about SSA 56.5. I'm really not sure how #2 through #5 really rank.

Are their any others with SSA (1000 rated golf) over 54? Oak on long tees (in the summer) would be right around 55.

One thing is for sure, KS's most challenging courses are some of the best courses.

ronconversjr · Post by **ronconversjr** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 11:28 pm

Is Waterworks ks? What about Colwich?

Friz-Rocker · Post by **Friz-Rocker** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 11:31 pm

ronconversjr wrote:Is Waterworks ks? What about Colwich?

Yes Colwich is in Kansas.

Ruder · Post by **Ruder** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 11:42 pm

I thought the Shunga course played pretty hard. Maybe it was just windy?

Schoen-hopper · Post by **Schoen-hopper** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 12:19 am

If you played all the long tees at Colwich.... Plus, when the course gets its alternate pins in, which will be longer....

Colwich would certainly be in the list. Conditions tend to be brutal out there for the tournament. I'm guessing the normal SSA from red or blue for the short, existing pins, would be slightly under 54 (1000 rated golf), but played all long it could easily be over 54. Of course if you played it any time other than it the winter, it would be much harder as well.

ronconversjr · Post by **ronconversjr** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 10:18 pm

While I`ve heard that length is the biggest factor in difficulty I don`t feel that it makes a great course by itself. Colwich plays pretty hard . Given the weather always seems to be a factor , move the date later in the year and see how it plays! My guess is that leaves make it play harder.

I`d say it is tougher than Herman Hill.