Kansas Disc Golf Association

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Format:

Format:
Players will be randomly seeded before the start of the first round. This neglects any intentional pairings or hole assignments. Groups with 6 or fewer people will play on one card each round. Groups with 7 – 10 players will play on 2 cards, and 3 cards for up to 14 players. All matches will be predetermined by seed number on the scorecard. Play is a shotgun start for everyone, each 6 holes is a 1 vs. 1 match play. After each 6 holes a new match will begin. Playing this fashion will allow 3 matches to take place over 18 holes. Everyone will play 6 matches during the day.


Points are a scored in the following manner:
1 point for winning a match.
1 / 2 point for splitting a match.

Total points won determines the final standings.

In the event of a tie:
Head to Head is the first tie breaker.
Total Holes won for the day is the 2nd tie breaker.
Total birdies is the 3rd tie breaker.


Groups of 3-4 players.

Round 1:
Match 1----------Match 2----------------Match 3
1 vs 2------------1 vs 3-----------------1 vs 4(x)
3 vs 4(x)---------2 vs 4(x)---------------2 vs 3

Round 2 would be an exact repeat of round 1.


Groups of 5 or 6 players all on 1 card.

Round 1
Match 1--------------------Match 2--------------------Match 3
1 vs 2---------------------1 vs 5 -----------------------1 vs 3
3 vs 4---------------------- 2 vs 3--------------------- 2 vs 6 (x)
5 vs 6 (x)----------------- 4 vs 6 (x)------------------4 vs 5


Round 2
Match 1------------------------Match 2-------------Match 3
1 vs 6(x)-----------------------1 vs 4---------------1 vs 2
2 vs 4 -------------------------2 vs 5----------------3 vs 4
3 vs 5 -------------------------3 vs 6 (x)------------5 vs 6 (x)

After 5 matches (30 holes) total all points won and seed 1 -6 using all tie breakers if needed. Play the final 6 holes using the new pairings. Total final points for final standings.




Groups of 7 – 8

2 cards using random seeding.

Card 1
Match 1--------------Match 2------------Match 3
1 vs 2---------------1 vs 3---------------1 vs 4
3 vs 4---------------2 vs 4----------------2 vs 3


Card 2
Match 1-------------Match 2---------------Match 3
5 vs 6---------------5 vs 7-----------------5 vs 8(x)
7 vs 8(x)------------6 vs 8(x)--------------6 vs 7

Total all points won after round 1 using tie breakers if needed. Top 2 players from each form card 1 Bottom 1 or 2 players on each card form card 2. Reseed by pts won and repeat final parings.

Total all points won for the final standings.


9 – 10 players 2 cards random seeding
Card 1
Match 1--------------Match 2-------------Match 3
1 vs 2---------------1 vs 3---------------1 vs 4
3 vs 4----------------2 vs 4---------------2 vs 3

Card 2
Match 1------------Match 2-------------Match 3
5 vs 6---------------5 vs 7--------------5 vs 8
7 vs 8---------------6 vs 9--------------7 vs 9
9 vs 10(x)----------8 vs 10 (x)--------6 vs 10 (x)

Total points won after first round. Top 2 from each card form card 1 and are seeded by points. If 9 total players, card 2 seeds must be placed so no player is matched against x a second time. Total all points won using tie breaks to determine the final standings.


11-12 players
3 cards seeded randomly the same as 7 – 8 player format with a 3rd card. Total points won after round 1 and reseed top player from each card, plus next best from card 1 for the second round. If 11 players in group, the remaining players from card 3 are on card 2 in second round, so nobody plays (x) twice. Total points won after second round total points won determines the place.

I have an issue with the match play- last year, Tracy & I didn't really enjoy it. I think you should come up with something different for divisions that don't have 6 competitors.

It was pointless for both of us to show & just to play 6 holes. Then Tracy won because she got the only easy birdie in Wellington. I would've felt better if we had a skins match or maybe just a "final" round. Perhaps if something really awesome goes down at the end of the year, more women would be enticed to join the KDGA

DUH wrote: Perhaps if something really awesome goes down at the end of the year, more women would be enticed to join the KDGA

Doubt that would really have any effect on the women in the KDGA.

OK, negative Nancy.

DUH wrote:OK, negative Nancy.

Not negative, just stating the facts.

The Match Play Championships will start at 10:00 on Sunday.

If you are playing, you will need to check in by 9:30. If you don't check in the matches cannot be organized. If you are going to play, you will need to physically find me and let me know you are there.

smitty wrote:The Match Play Championships will start at 10:00 on Sunday.

If you are playing, you will need to check in by 9:30. If you don't check in the matches cannot be organized. If you are going to play, you will need to physically find me and let me know you are there.

Before we were going to have this at lakewood but the more we thought about it we changed this to Thomas Park. I think all holes are fair by giving the same challenges to players of the same playing level but has more chances to scoring separations if one of the players does not execute the shot.

Current top third.
Top pro & am from each region.
Harry Shimp currently leading most tourney for those not otherwise qualified with 18.


Open
1 Crispin Carrasco 1275
2 Bo Carrasco 1110
3 Ron Convers 1072
4 Austin Streit 1002
5 Ronnie Unruh 993
6 Brendan Hickman 913
7 Iqbal Jehan 839
10 Tracy Ruder 751
11 Kevin Babbit 546
.

Masters
1 Darren Bottom 916
2 Randy Brown 823
3 Jarod Kintzel 768
5 Tom Vierthaler 526
.
Grandmasters
1 Terry Burley 398
2 Buddy Kassner 265
3 Dennis Vahsholtz 227
.
Advanced Am.
1 Phil Jackson 986
2 Shane Crisler 751
3 Jason Adkins 717
4 Zach Young 670
5 Adam Mosher 447
6 Andy Lyne 398
7 Phil Schmidt 382
8 Brandon Mace 360
9 Tyler Patzner 332
12 Taylor Camp 187
.
Amateur
1 Mike Daniels 423
2 Cort Hughes 377
3 Austin Johnson 377
4 Curtis Broadhurst 345
5 Jacob Trimbath 341
6 Chris Tyler 340
7 Jason Snodgrass 338
8 Dan Decker 310
9 Greg Wilson 270
10 Bryan Grosbach 228
11 Kyle Kuhn 217
12 Loyd Majors 216
13 Jeremy Kindy 216
14 Jerry Powell 197
15 Thomas Spencer 172
16 Don Zimmerman 163
20 Harry Shimp 143
21 Russell Trice 123
.
Am. Masters
1 Mike Speer 614
2 Tom Osborn 394
3 Tom Thompson 253
5 Robert Decker 118
.
Women
1 Miranda Fulton 151
2 Robin Reimer 150
.
Junior
1 John Mosher 33
.
Jr. Girls
1 Susan Mattingly 21
.
129 members

If you have any contact info for the people above, please let them know they have qualified for the finals. Most of them know, but some may not.

smitty wrote:The Match Play Championships will start at 10:00 on Sunday.

If you are playing, you will need to check in by 9:30. If you don't check in the matches cannot be organized. If you are going to play, you will need to physically find me and let me know you are there.

Is there going to be a set location or is that part of the fun? Where's Smitty!! (just make sure you wear a red and white stripped shirt, hat and round glasses)

BGLeftyFlick wrote:Is there going to be a set location or is that part of the fun? Where's Smitty!! (just make sure you wear a red and white stripped shirt, hat and round glasses)

Yes, for you it is in Colby at the only picnic table buy hole 3.


For the rest of you, find the crowd of People at Thomas Park and that is where we will be. The only change might be if the place is a mess from all the rain last night and then all the foot traffic it will get on Saturday. If we change the location I will post on here as soon as we do.

What kind of payout structure is there for this event?? I've not played the finals since it was a skins game... Just wondering if its worth a 2day weekend or just one

The last few years they have paid out an average $50 per man, with everyone getting paid something. If 40+ people show up, that is $2000+ the KDGA throws in. Mace has even allowed the ams to put their $ towards next years membership.

Here are the end of the year Match play results. The Pros were paid in cash or next years membership and the ADV and am's were paid in plastic or next years membership

2010 KDGA Finals Payout
Place Division Payout
Open
1 Ben Wiggins 110
2 Nate Martin 90
3 Ronnie Unruh 60
4 Bo Carrasco 60
5 Ron Convers 40
6 Austin Streit 30
7 Brendan Hickman 30
8 Crispin Carrasco 30
9 Tracy Ruder 30

Masters
1 Buddy Kassner 95
2 Jarod Kintzel 75
3 Rich Holmgren 45
4 Tom Vierthaler 45
5 Randy Brown 30
6 Darren Bottom 30
7 Dennis Vahsholtz 30

Women
1 Miranda Fulton 70
2 Mel Snodgrass 30

Advanced
1 Phil Jackson 100
2 Phil Schmidt 80
3 Scott Haynes 50
4 Tyler Patzner 50
5 Adam Mosher 30
6 Jason Adkins 30
7 Andy Lyne 30
8 Brandon Mace 30

Am Masters
1 Tom Thompson 80
2 Mike Speer 60
3 Robert Decker 30
4 Tom Osborn 30

Am
1 Jason Snodgrass 130
2 Curtis Broadhurst 95
3 Dan Decker 75
4 Cort Hughes 60
5 Bryan Grosbach 50
6 Don Zimmerman 50
7 Mike Daniels 40
8 Jeremy Kindy 40
9 Caleb Campbell 30
10 Kyle Kuhn 30
11 Loyd Majors 30
12 Jerry Powell 30
13 Russell Trice 30
14 Harry Shimp 30
15 John Mosher 30

Total Prize Payout 2280

Notes from this year.

5 Player divisions need to play 5 matches of 7 holes.
7 Player divisions need to play 7 matches of 5 holes.

15 AMS was a huge field.
We seeded them Randomly and used a 4 person division.
Second round we made cards based on Top players, Second Player, Third Player, and Last player on card from previous round. It worked but wasn't ideal.

We need to figure out what modifications we want to make to the system before next years finals.