Most Commonly Broken Rules

Schoen-hopper · Post by **Schoen-hopper** » Fri Apr 20, 2007 10:10 pm

Which ones get broke in tournament play?

Some of them are relaxed out of respect for other players. Someone steps on their mini while executing a fairway drive... Beer drinking... probably some others that just aren't worth calling on people most of the time.

One that I've noticed that get's broke a lot that does make a difference is how OB is played. Take the example of a disc going OB off a steep ledge that is a couple of meters from the waters edge. The rule says that you get up to one meter, but players always "play it on top" rather than get down on the side of the bank and play it.

People don't want to double punish a player who has made a bad shot. You got to remember that for it to be "fair", everyone has to play by the same rules. In this particular situation, if a player doesn't like their lie next to the OB, they can always re-tee it for the same penalty.

scarpfish · Post by **scarpfish** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 11:03 am

The falling putt rule hands down. I wonder if some of the less experienced players realize that rule even exists.

gippy · Post by **gippy** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 11:31 am

Played in an event yesterday and lots of people don't know about this. A player that has been playing for years now didn't even know this. He made a nice 30ft putt around a tree but fell foward afterwards past his marker. I went up to him and told him in a more serious event that some players will call ya on it. His reply was "what do you mean?" i explain keeping in control of your body after a putt within 35 ft. Told him the best way to show this is to make the putt then pick your mark up then move on. I would agree most don't know about this rule.

Ruder · Post by **Ruder** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 8:45 pm

I had this scenerio Hopper, in Emporia. I played mine from the side of the bank. However, I kept sliding down into the water just trying to get a stance.

It should be legal to put up to the top due to an unsafe lie with no extra penalties. Can someone confirm or deny this with a rule?

Schoen-hopper · Post by **Schoen-hopper** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 11:27 pm

Only if declared so in advance by the TD. We used to allow free ups to anyone on the riverbank in Wichita. Then we went to using an OB line on top.

If you can't play your lie and have to play an "unplayable lie" (no longer called "unsafe lie", you got to play it back on the line of play or from your previous shot. Either way there is a penalty.

Friz-Rocker · Post by **Friz-Rocker** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 7:24 pm

Players backing into there lie to make a clear shot or leaning on objects such as a tree while throwing.

Schoen-hopper · Post by **Schoen-hopper** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 8:42 pm

Yeah, making people use the "least amount of movement of any part of the course" is impossible to enforce. It can't really be measured. I suppose it should be obvious if someone makes a major infraction, but yes, it probably never gets called.

As far as leaning on a tree, it can be considered legal. I think it depends on if any part of the tree is closer to the hole than your lie.

smitty · Post by **smitty** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 8:47 pm

EZ!

804.05 #4

Activities which are in violation of the law or park regulation or disc golf course rule, including the illegal consumption of drugs or alcohol. Directors are granted the discretion to disqualify a player based on the severity of the offending conduct. An official warning of disqualification may be issued by a director where appropriate.

I think most of us have broken this rule, and thought it was OK.

I know I have thrown back a cold one in a park that didn't allow it.

Master Dyck · Post by **Master Dyck** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 8:49 pm

The most common rule infraction that I witness is when a disc ends up in a bush or behind a tree and there is no way to have a clear shot at the basket. I see people all the time lay their mini down and then when the shot is made, their foot is a good 1-2 feet to the side of the mini, giving them a clearer shot at the basket.

Should I call them on it?

When I play that kind of lie, I make possitively sure that the middle of my shoe is behind the middle of my mini so no one will be able to call me on it. No matter how bad of a upshot/putt I have to make.

smitty · Post by **smitty** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 8:55 pm

[quote="Master Dyck"]

Should I call them on it?
[quote]

No!

Just call them for a foot fault when they have a bad shot or miss a putt.

Of course you should call them on it.

Schoen-hopper · Post by **Schoen-hopper** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 9:12 pm

Master Dyck wrote: Should I call them on it?

I'm not sure it would always be appropriate to stroke someone without giving them a friendly warning that there was an infraction, but this is definitely a big no-no. There were a couple of times this weekend where I would have certainly saved a stroke if I had played 6 inches to the side of my mini instead of behind it. Now, a player accidentally missing their mark on a fairway drive should be allowed some tolerance.

Samson · Post by **Samson** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 9:43 pm

I would also have to say that Smitty had the most broken rule...

the runner up would have to be foot placement on the mini or teebox. I seen people this weekend be outside of three feet from their mini, or front of teebox.

When I do notice it I will mention it to someone, because any warning should be from 2 people on the card, and they will blow it off, what do you do then?

I noticed a lot of rule infractions, but can you do anythng about them if no one else sees it, or is willing to call it?

ronconversjr · Post by **ronconversjr** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 9:51 pm

smitty wrote:
Master Dyck wrote:

Should I call them on it?

No!

Just call them for a foot fault when they have a bad shot or miss a putt.

Of course you should call them on it.

if you see them lining up wrong by accident

let them know before they throw!if it is repeated over and over, well... a stroke is a stroke and cheating is cheating

Friz-Rocker · Post by **Friz-Rocker** » Tue Apr 24, 2007 4:10 pm

Okay here`s reality: Players are given breaks during play.Who`s gonna stop it? Nobody,cause it happens in every division.

smitty · Post by **smitty** » Tue Apr 24, 2007 4:42 pm

I agree with you Frizzz and Ron.

People do deserve a break. If I see someone getting ready to break a rule, I tell them. If they are going to putt from the wrong disc, or throw to the wrong basket, something you can prevent from going on.

Now if I watch someone improve their lie, I am not going to let that go. I crawl my little butt into all the sticky spots I get in, I expect the competition to do the same thing.

Now would I ever call a foot fault on someone and give them an extra shot. NO WAY! I have heard of that happening twice now. Once on a drive, and now on a putt.

The one rule that I break at most events. I pick up other players discs. If they have a drop in, I pick it up. Now if the disc is going to fly, then I make them putt it.